Tuesday, November 21, 2006

Updates On Datuk Azhar Mansor Case

I am very much touched by the way Datuk Azhar Mansor wisely and winningly answered each and every questioned asked by the reporter during the press conference held at the PWTC to which some people made a daring but questionable conclusion that he has not leave the faith of his birth.

Well, everyone has the freedom to come out to certain conclusion based on their own understanding. We might have different understanding based on the same piece of information we read and i really want to know your say based on this same conference that I read. You can read the whole Q & A here, but I am going to extract the Q & A here for us to think about. (Please allow me my freedom of writing and giving opinion)

Before that, I must make my intention clear. My intention of writing this is only to get your side of perspective on the the said case. There is no other but just that!

Here we go:

Q: The polemic has arisen because of the status of your religion. Can you make it clear whether you are still a Muslim or not?

A: Sometimes, I wonder... I can make this answer a very long, long one, or I can also make it short. But I sometimes wonder, where is the confusion? Of course, from what I understand, the rumours about me no longer being a Muslim have been there since 1999 when I was still sailing. This issue has been doubted and questioned until today. From being circulated in the Internet to now in an SMS. I have not given it much thought because it was an Internet source. But to go specific to the SMS, whereby my name was involved, on the incident in Ipoh which should not have happened, I was surprised myself because I got the SMS after the incident. I was informed through my family members in Ipoh that many people had gathered to protest since I was supposed to be there to baptise people. This was out of my knowledge. Now it is under police investigation. If only in the Internet, it is okay but when there is an SMS which affected public order, I would also like to know the cause and agenda of such an SMS.
I believe that was not the answer that the reporter expected from the question, that is why i think the ask the next question

Q: After so many days, people are wondering why you have not declared that you are still a Muslim?

A: I cannot control other people's perception
Indeed, it is a very wise one. But obviously the reporter was not happy with the answer therfore he/she asked again the next question

Q: Are you a Muslim?

A: My mindset is trained differently. As a sailor, my stand is, I am a person who wants to know what is in front of my eyes and in my hands. What others want to say about me, I cannot control.
Do you wonder what is that in front of his eyes and his hands? Only he know!

Q: But you can use this opportunity to declare that you am still a Muslim! Just say yes or no.

A: Then we can go back? I also want to know what else you want to know from me.
Again?

Q: It is just whether you are a Muslim or not.

A: That's it?
And again?

Q: Before this we heard from a third party, so now we want to hear it from you.

A: If I say that, you will all leave this room. I would also like to get to know you all too. Sometimes I wonder, why people want to know which shirt I am wearing, why I am wearing shorts. Why do you want to know this? In fact, I have certain responsibilities which I have to adhere to and that is what I should concentrate on. Meaning, if all of you want to know, I was born in Perlis as a Malay Muslim. My father is a Muslim, my family and siblings are Muslims. My own family members are also Muslims. So, I feel the issue of the status of my religion does not arise at all. That should not be questioned at all. If you want to ask me that just based on the Internet and SMS, that is why I do not want to entertain this kind of things. This is a sensitive matter. But my father, my children, my siblings are Muslims. So there is no need for this question to arise. And I have never, in this country or in any other parts of the world, that I have applied to renounce Islam. And I have never thought about doing that. That was what surprised me. But I don't want you to leave now that I have answered you.
OMG, and again?

Q: The perception still persists because in the recent press statement there was nothing from you to say you are still a Muslim. That is what people want to know.

A: If I say that, if I say I am a Muslim from the very beginning, you mean that's the end of the story?
What a repitition!

Q: Yes. That's it. Another thing, can you say the Kalimah Syahadah now? Everyone will keep quiet after this.

A: Did your mother ever ask you to say it? My father has never asked me to say it until now. Because we have said it many times, we say it everytime in our prayers.
What's your comment?

Q: Then only this matter will not arise again later.

A: No. Cannot. I am not going to do that. This is not the Judgment Day for me to be questioned like this. When the day comes, nobody will know where we will end up going. It is not a matter of saying it or trying to please your ears. (Bukan atas ungkapan itu atau bukan atas nak bagi sedap telinga)
Good answer, Datuk, i really admire you! Nobody will know where we will end up going, so please my fellow blogger, this people will go to heaven and this people will go to hell. God will decide!

Q: Our intention is only to clarify things for the public.

A: I understand. If you see me in Langkawi, we would understand each other even better. My work is related to many people, including those from overseas. Obviously, I would always be hanging out with the white men. So, when I sit with them, people will say I am not a Muslim. It's tough on me.
Very good intention, indeed - that his/her responsibility as reporter!

Q: Where are you based now?

A: I am based in Langkawi, as in my responsibilities. My home, as in family, is in KL. And those are the two places that I have been, other than going on short trips on business.

Hamid: I would like to explain, for everyone of us, as long as one does not renounce his religion, he remains in his original religion. There is no need for one to repeat whether he is Muslim or not.
Good explaination, indeed, eventhough Azhar did not touch on that one in his answer at all

Q (to Azhar): On the SMS incident, are you going to take action against anyone?

A: That is already under police investigation. When the SMS first came out I did not lodge any police report. But when the matter was prolonged, I felt it was better for me to make a police report to protect myself. Now we just wait for the police report and any further development. I cannot say anything else as of now.
Cool, that clearly shows who you are, not simply responded blindly, to some rumors like most people will do.

Q: Are you saying that what is contained in the SMS is a fitnah (accusation/defamation/slander)?

A: I am not used to using that kind of word. I would never say anything if I see someone wearing shorts, or drinking in a coffee shop or in a bar. That is his personal matter. We should take care of our own selves. If we want to question whether one is a Muslim or a Christian, it would be tough. But all I know, my responsibility, my stand, my faith is in Allah. So, don't question me now and I am only living my daily life in Malaysia according to the Syariah teaching and country's regulations. I have never committed any offence. If you want to ask whether one is a Muslim or not, it is better for you to ask the rapists. That is better. Don't ask me that. I was only doing my job in langkawi. I have never disturbed anybody. It is the others who always disturbed me.

Husainay: The conclusion is, Azhar is still a Muslim. I think we better make it clear. So, let us end this session.
That also shows who you really are! Conclusion is a only a conclusion, right?

Q: Do you think the SMS has something to do with your business relations?

Azhar: I don't know. I will wait and see the outcome of the police investigation. If I can get hold of the finding, perhaps I can think of what to do next. But now I do not want to think about it. Now I just want to stay to follow the assembly and later go back to Langkawi to continue with my work. But I will be wearing my shorts. Is it okay with you guys if I wear shorts?

Hamid: But we must be clear that in Islam, faith is one aspect, while behaviour is another aspect. They are not inter-connected. So if a citizen was caught stealing, he is guilty and considered a criminal, but his citizenship remains. It will not be abolished. Islam is also like that. If a Muslim does not practise the Islamic teaching, that is another story, but his faith in Islam remains. It will not be affected.

PS: I would really appreciate if someone can elaborate more on this.

Q: After this, would your daily life be affected?

A: Azhar: No, it will not affect me. It is just that sometimes, I think, is our country this bad to the extent I have to take action to protect my family? Should that happen, I would be very much shocked. But for me, I am too engrossed with my responsibilities. I have never worked but I have a lot of responsibilities. And at this opportunity, I would like to say, being the unofficial ambassador of Langkawi, I would like to invite you all to come to Langkawi if you want to go for a holiday. Then you can see me in shorts.

Wish could be in Langkawi one of these days...

14 Comments:

At 9:36 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The news links seem to be gone... Are they? This transcript on your blog is thus more important...

 
At 10:02 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm linking my updates to this post of yours, with the transcript of the press conference. Sorry to hitch a ride on your blog like this! And thanks...

 
At 7:40 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hi Scot,
No problem at all. Sorry for late reply...I've been in Singapore for the whole week...I'll check on the link when i get back home....
Nice to have you on my blog.

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At 12:56 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Freedom of religion is enshrined in Federal Constitution so leave Datuk alone, be him a Muslim or Christian. Only him alone knows how good is his relationship with God.

 
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At 3:34 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The main importantly in life is stop judging people or mainframe them without any eligible reason.

Datuk Azhar Mansoor is one of the best sailor in Malaysia (We have to admit that) but we didn't know or see clearly what happened while he was sailing in the ocean without anything, only He or Him can rescue Datuk.

God has a reason to let D.A.M (Datuk Azhar Mansoor) to be silent, Datuk knows what best in his life, please dont let the mislead conclusion between Datuk and his MURTAD, he's a human beings, we all should be pray for him..

Maybe Son of God (Jesus christ) has shown him something, something that we can't see with our own eyes but he sees..

Religion or Faith is not with us, it is with Him..

Im a christian and im very proud for what has happen, but im shock nearly heart attack but i know deep in Datuk there is something he ain't telling us.

Maybe someday Datuk will reveal what happen and maybe someday he will tell us the true story.

Once a christian will always be a christian.

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At 11:10 PM, Anonymous Melayu Bukan Islam said...

Mariner Azhar: I have not renounced Islam (But he never maintained that he IS still a Muslim. He has NOT renounced the rumor he had converted to Christianity either. Did he convert to Christian?)

(He still refused to say the Kalimah Syahadah. He failed to denounce converting to Christianity. He did it to benefit himself as apostasy is a crime in Malaysia punishable by imprisonment, torture and possible death in the hands of Muslims who obey the demand to kill apostates Muslims: 'Whoever leaves Islam, kill him').

I have never committed any offense. If you want to ask whether one is a Muslim or not, it is better for you to ask the rapists. That is better. Don’t ask me that (whether I am still a Muslim).

(Did Datuk Azhar concluded he is still a Muslim? I do not think so based on the way he answered which appeared to be beating around the bush and not giving straight answers. No one asked if he raped, yet he asked the reporters to ask rapist whether they were Muslims. He gave a strange answer. Yet, it appears that Allah is the No.1 god to rapists in Malaysia. How do you conclude on this then?).

 

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